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Werner G. Seitz
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Of course the routine is good and strong..
An easy way to make the removal of the coins logical, is simply to show the *silk* displayed by 2 opposite top corners-one in each hand-, letting it hang down, so the whole silk surface is front to the specs after removal of the coins with a remark, to look for the hole in the silk..there is none..
This takes the heat of the *theoretical* weak point..just show the silk is 'innocent'...
*Can you see the large hole in the center?... Surprise....there is none..*
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For those interested in the visual appeal of this trick, check out one of Dean Dill's older video's. There is a trick with a plastic bag and coins and it looks really good (as well as another awesome idea with the same plastic bag and other common props.
Unfortunately I lend this video to someone and never got it back. That should learn me...

And to me the Chris Power routine rules, when going for the scarf.
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Chris Powers actually is in a class by himself..
I saw him doing that routine many years back in a competition and I well remember his outstandingly natural handling...
He might have changed his handling since a bit, but I well recall he almost fooled me by his very natural and relaxed handpositioins during other routines too..

He's a great performer and deep thinker..what a pitty not too much of his work is available on a visual media..any description re how he handles stuff isn't good enough, it has to be seen..
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I saw Michael do the routine in one of his lectures. I got the lecture notes and it came with the "silks". In his hands it was beautiful. I haven't worked with it too much, so I won't comment on the different handlings.
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I do this trick regularly, exactly as per Michael's instructions - I was able to master all of the moves within one week. It always elicits a strong reaction from the audience - and maybe I've been lucky, but nobody has questioned me about the rationale for any of the moves.
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Nate Kranzo also has this on a video, maybe DVD.
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I am with Dan Le Fay, Chris Powers routine is just as strong, how you doing Dan?
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It all depends on your performance style, but I think stopping the routine to let the spectators re-examine the coins would slow it too way down for me.

I am interested in reading or seeing the Dave Berry routine. I don't think I have been exposed to it yet.

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You're right Kirk. It would slow it down. You'd have to have some patter in there to keep the pace up and with that, it would still work just fine. I currently do not hand out the coins like that. I would share your concern.

But, the routine does generate a lot of interest and having a slower moment is not all bad. Peaks and valleys. As long as it's not a real LULL and you're talking about something interesting, I think you're ok. If you stand there with your hands on your hips while someone is staring at them and not saying anything.... BAD MAGICIAN!.



After one coin goes thru, I hold up the silk, higher, and give it a jingle so the audience can see that they don't come thru easily. Then I put the silk into the other hand and give it another jingle to the spectators on the other side. I do this for selfish reasons (I'm better at doing the necessary slight with the other hand) but it looks like I'm just being considerate to the other speckys.


I wonder if you could do a click-pass into someone's hand. If they keep their hand flat, it might work. Hmmm...
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A click pass to a spectators hand CAN work. Kirk
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You know those "3 Scarf Juggling" books/props you can buy? I'm pretty sure it's the same fabric as used in the MA routine. Just a thought.
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On 2004-12-28 09:52, Jeff McLeod wrote:
You know those "3 Scarf Juggling" books/props you can buy? I'm pretty sure it's the same fabric as used in the MA routine. Just a thought.
Yes, might be..I just somehow find it difficult to do a clickpass using 2 of those scarfs Smile
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This is one of the coolest routines on Mikes video series!!! The hardest part of the routine is finding the same kind of silk!!!
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This thread piqued my interest and I'm enjoying working on this routine. I remember seeing Michael Ammar perform Coins through silk at the Magic Castle back in the 80's. In his hands it's real magic. Since I have Michael's DVD, I thought I'd work on it.

Our local Walmart no longer has the scarves. However, I found the material at Joann's fabric store, the're nationwide. I also bought the scarves online from Ammar's website. I think $6 is very reasonable, considering it also comes with a manuscript.

I also lucked out becuase I have Ammar's book, "Encore 3." Coin through Silk is on page 78! Has a few pointers missing on the video. Some of the methods vary from the DVD and it's really great to study.
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On 2004-12-23 10:49, Kjellstrom wrote:
I found this effect: 'Coins through Silk' on Michaels web:

http://store.yahoo.com/ammarmagic/cointhrougsi.html

Is it easy to learn? How strong is the routine?

Mats
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There is also a version of the same trick on David Roth's coin and silks video. I actually prefer this handling. The results are pretty much the same.
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On 2004-12-24 04:02, Werner G. Seitz wrote:

Somehow the thingy at MAs site is highly overpriced, taken into consideration how often he himself has explained and demoed it on several of his videos..and the chiffon thingy is very cheap..
Maybe MA needs the money badly? Smile



Actually, I purchased this from him, and it comes with the instructions for the routine, which means you get a great routine and the silk needed for $6. I can't think of a single routine of this caliber that costs only $6

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On 2004-12-25 01:06, Frank Starsini wrote:
They really like those coins.. especially if you lie and tell them they're worth $20 a piece.


You don't really have to lie. I've seen them for $20 a piece.
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I attended a Chris Power lecture at FISM 2000 and saw his version for the first time. It was beautiful and elegant. One of the most amazing magical experiences I've ever had.

I bought several natural organza scarves from him. I practiced and performed this routine for a while but the scarves are delicate and very hard to come by. If I could find a dependable source, I would be more inclined to do do it regularly.
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On 2004-12-24 04:02, Werner G. Seitz wrote:

Somehow the thingy at MAs site is highly overpriced, taken into consideration how often he himself has explained and demoed it on several of his videos..and the chiffon thingy is very cheap..
Maybe MA needs the money badly? Smile



Actually, I purchased this from him, and it comes with the instructions for the routine, which means you get a great routine and the silk needed for $6. I can't think of a single routine of this calibur that costs only $6
A BIG sorry to MA..
I did misread his add somehow!
I did read it for $60, no kidding... Smile
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It's an amazing effect, and beautifulyl performed by Michael. I'v seen him do it live.
The routine is also described in Encore 3, which in itself is a fantastic book, and a must have if you still can get a hold of a copy.
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Russ Burns has a version in Apocalypse (April 1981) called Liquid Silver. Worth checking out. Uses a regular silk.
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