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olivertwist Special user Nashua, NH 588 Posts |
I'm really glad to see this thread on Bryce's screen because I've been considering buying the plans too. My interest is in producing a vent figure so I think I could use a shorter screen. From those of you who know the illusion, would it work for producing a 38" dummy? (no offense meant to Dodger)
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John Bundy Regular user USA 193 Posts |
Oliver:
The Bryce screen needs a little help from the person being produced. You might consider an over sized Temple Screen. Mike: Six is the number of screens the audience should see. |
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Kent Wong Inner circle Edmonton, Alberta, Canada 2458 Posts |
Someone had mentioned that the plans for the Bryce's Screen may be available from the Osborne Illusion Systems. Does anyone know which volume of Osborne it may be in? The catalogues that sell Osborne do not list the illusions contained in many of the volumes. Thanks.
Kent
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MikeDes Inner circle Montreal 1174 Posts |
Can this illusion be performed with just one assistant (the one that appears) or do you need another assistant to help you manipulate and close the screens?
Mike |
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rtgreen Inner circle Portland, Oregon 1322 Posts |
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On 2005-01-12 10:29, magicman845 wrote: Recently there was a discussion about the contents of the Paul Osborne books. I made an excel file that lists them all. Bryce's screen doesn't seem to be listed, but you can buy the plans individually here: http://hamiltonholtinc.site.yahoo.net/brycesscreen1.html Thanks, Richard |
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Frank Tougas Inner circle Minneapolis, MN 1712 Posts |
Bryce's screen would not work with a vent dummy not so much because the assistant helps as this could be worked around in a smaller sized version but because the screens height aids the illusion, A smaller screen unless the audience was below the sightlie of the top of the screen would not work. I think a large Temple Screen would be an excellent choice. BTW - To answer a question regarding number of panels, Bryces screen has six panels (At least as far as the spectators vantage shows.)
Frank Tougas The Twin Cities Most "Kid Experienced" Children's Performer :"Creating Positive Memories...One Smile at a Time"
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olivertwist Special user Nashua, NH 588 Posts |
Thanks, Frank and John. That's what I needed to know.
I'll build a large Temple Screen instead. Oliver |
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John Bundy Regular user USA 193 Posts |
Thank you Oliver.
You may also want to look into the Wonder Screen from Owen Magic Supreme. It may have a lot of advantages for what you want to do. |
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The Mirror Images Inner circle Michigan/USA 1980 Posts |
Abbotts I believe has some plans. I could be wrong.
Michael
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Kent Wong Inner circle Edmonton, Alberta, Canada 2458 Posts |
Abbott's does not sell their own plans for the screen. Instead, they sell the Osborne plans for the same effect. Greg at Abbotts confirmed that the illusion is very easy to construct, especially if you have access to a decent seamstress. The plans sell for $25.00 - the same price as the web site listed above.
Kent
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Barry Gitelson Special user Kona Hawaii 971 Posts |
I have this and don't use it all that often but when I do it works very well.
I first got it to produce Santa in the middle of an open court yard at a shopping center and it blew the audiance away. Last year I produced Santa at a resort and the helpers I was expecting from the agency didn't show up and I grabbed two of the wait staff during the show and had them turn it for me and even they didn't know how santa got there. For such a good sized production it packs down fairly small and the time needed to teach the person being produced is minimal. I usually bring "witnesses" on stage to do a quick walk around examination and "keep an eye on things" right before the spin around and production.
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imagique New user 61 Posts |
How many visible screens are there in the Bryce Screen illusion? I've seen 3 panel, 4 panel, 6 panel props called Bryce screens. The 3 panel screen was not gimmicked, it was just accomplished by handling, without enclosure during the display. I didn't consider it very deceptive or easily handled.
I'm interested in producing untrained helpers, with little or no effort on their part. I'm looking for opinions, pros/cons of different Bryce Screen setups. I'm considering a 5 panel, set up as a 6, but the offset storage diamond would be less noticeable than the diamond storage being completely centered. Also, which would be most easily handled by a single performer. Also, any ideas for panel construction? I'm considering coroplast, not foamboard, with 1/2" thick by 2" wide poplar wood borders, fastened to the coroplast using adhesive. I'm still up in the air on hinges, but I'll probably end up with bookbinding or gaffers tape. Any ideas on the bottom of the panels, where they touch the ground? Angles of attachment, angles of the top borders, etc? I watched the video of Jason Byrne's screen that he uses before the origami, and it looked really good, lightweight and solid, but I want something that would be a little bit easier handled by a single performer without the 3rd person. I'm also already using a small Temple Screen in the act, so I don't want to try to do the Temple Screen setup for the person production. Thanks for any ideas, Jimmy |
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David Charvet Special user www.charvetmagic.com 501 Posts |
FYI - It's called "Bryce's Screen" because it was invented by Bryce Chambers, a Seattle magician who sold the idea to Percy Abbott in the 40's. I remember meeting Bryce when I was a teenager growing up in Seattle. A nice guy. I don't believe he's still around.
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Rip New user Ireland 57 Posts |
Jason Byrne is updating his website at the moment and it is off-line. Would anyone have a copy of the video I could access?
Thanks... Rip |
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Kent Wong Inner circle Edmonton, Alberta, Canada 2458 Posts |
I received my Osborne plans a couple of weeks ago and build the screen last weekend. It looks pretty close to the screen used by Jason Byrne. The illusion is very easy to build, especially if you (or someone you know) happens to know how to sew. I did make a few modifications to the plan in order to allow for slightly easier operation. Even with those changes, though, the total construction cost was only about $100.00. Bang for your buck, this illusion is definitely worth it.
Kent
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Andrew Loyal user 285 Posts |
Can "Bryce's Screen" be performed surrounded by the audience?
I'd like to use this for an outside event. Thanks! Andrew |
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Frank Tougas Inner circle Minneapolis, MN 1712 Posts |
In theory yes since it can be looked at from all sides. In practice, not really since you still have to load the person you are going to produce and with people on all sides there is no opportunity to do that.
Frank Tougas The Twin Cities Most "Kid Experienced" Children's Performer :"Creating Positive Memories...One Smile at a Time"
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Kent Wong Inner circle Edmonton, Alberta, Canada 2458 Posts |
From the official description in Abbott's catalogue, you can have an audience member come up on stage and stand behind the screen during the production. However, this would only work if the illusion was "loaded" ahead of time. In that case, the only bad angle would be from above. It is not an illusion to use if there is balcony seating.
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imagique New user 61 Posts |
Hi everyone,
I'm in the final stages of design and development. Before I commit to building, does everyone agree with the 18" panel width for corporate work, or would any of you recommend an extra inch or two here or there? How tight is that 18" diamond area on a larger CEO? I may go 20", that is still able to be toted under the arm. Also, what height would you recommend? The Abbott's one is 6' tall, according to the ads. I'm thinking that 6'2", or 74", would be better, even with a taller person who could bow their head a bit. Thanks for any input, Jimmy |
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Andrew Loyal user 285 Posts |
Thank you Frank Tougas and magicman845, for the answer to my question.
Sounds like it won't work for what I was planning. Perhaps it may come in handy for other performances. Thanks again. Andrew |
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