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tobenjunk
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I've heard card guards can prevent the box and deck from being bent and beat out of shape. Could anyone give suggestions of where to find one? Price? Options?

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Toben
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Toben

Penguin Magic sell them quite cheap. That is if you can ever get them! They are forever out of stock. My view is that someone buys the lot then knocks them out on Ebay for double!

http://www.penguinmagic.com/europe/brows......&y=8
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The one you want is the Porper clip.

http://www.bobkohlermagic.com/products/cardclip.html

The cheap one is just that, cheap. I've owned both, and only the Porper clip provides even pressure across the face of the card. The cheap one tends to pinch hardest just along the "spine" of the clip. That won't give you flat cards. Additionally, in my experience the cheap one chews up card boxes.

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On 2005-01-10 03:10, Paul Sherman wrote:
The one you want is the Porper clip.

http://www.bobkohlermagic.com/products/cardclip.html

The cheap one is just that, cheap. I've owned both, and only the Porper clip provides even pressure across the face of the card. The cheap one tends to pinch hardest just along the "spine" of the clip. That won't give you flat cards. Additionally, in my experience the cheap one chews up card boxes.

Paul


Especially if you drop them and the land on the corner. They rip up your box pretty bad. Speaking of which, how many times have you taken your cards out with a card guard on only to take time out to explain to these poor people who have no idea what the hell that weird metal thing is doing around your card box? Then when you tell them what it's for they kind of look at you like, "God, is this guy anal retentive or what?"

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The cheap one is just that, cheap. I've owned both, and only the Porper clip provides even pressure across the face of the card. The cheap one tends to pinch hardest just along the "spine" of the clip. That won't give you flat cards. Additionally, in my experience the cheap one chews up card boxes.


It is $30.
A new pack of cards is $3.
Why not just buy a new pack if they get roughed up?
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I wonder if the coin guys are gonna start coming out with "coin guards" so they don't scratch up their coins.

Of course one might now wonder what the mentalists would do...
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Hmm I would feel that getting a new deck of cards is more appropriate then to get a card guard as theres a limit to how long the life span of ur deck can have even with the help of a guard
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On 2005-01-10 03:40, irishguy wrote:
It is $30.
A new pack of cards is $3.
Why not just buy a new pack if they get roughed up?


I go through about 50 decks a year, give or take. I'd say that's actually a conservative estimate. Let's say it's 50 at $3 a pop for a total of $150. If the card guard extends the life of my cards by 25% (approx. 2 days), then they go from being useful for 7.3 days to 9.125 days, which means I'll only go through 40 decks in a year. 40 decks at $3 a pop is $120. In one year I've saved $30 on cards, which is equal to the cost of the Porper clip. I'm 25 years old. Over my lifetime (which the clip is built to last for) I'll save hundreds of dollars.

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I keep some of my cards in Card Guard, mainly my Tiger Decks simply cause they are a bit more expensive. If you imagine if you pull the guard out, then out of that you pull black cards... it says something about you before the trick has even started. But that is only because I use the tiger decks as part of my patter and therefore am justified in using them. If you have no reason to use them, what this says about you before the trick has started might be the wrong thing... if you get my drift. Oh forget it, I'm babbling, I like em and they are only £7 from Davenports - http://www.davenportsmagic.co.uk
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On 2005-01-10 03:44, Dorian Rhodell wrote:
Of course one might now wonder what the mentalists would do...


They've already got their protection...helmets! Smile

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Keep your trick decks in the card guards. I keep my Invisible deck in one at all times. Still looks near brand new.
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In my opinion Roberto Giobbi, author of "Card College", sells the best ones. They are a bit pricey (30 Swiss Francs = approx. 40 USD) but will last a lifetime.
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Mentalists wrap their heads in aluminum foil Smile
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The Porper one is more than great, nice looking and will also be of use if you live in areas with a lot of humidity, the cards will stay flat.
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Wow, what a thread! Some good stuff here!

Bikes cost about a £1 a deck here in Blighty (£2.50 at the worst!) So a card guard merely 'looks pretty' on these (my reason for a guard!) and doesn't serve a 'real' purpose. Though I like the idea of a guard around 'Tigers' for the reason already mentioned. But the "Porper" has to ooooooze class for any deck!! But what about the all singing-dancing "Superhanz?"

http://www.xtremehandz.com/page/page/1177404.htm
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I can't imagine that the wooden boxes put the same sort of pressure on the deck as the Porper clip. They're pretty, but don't seem very functional. Since I don't like to let spectators see me taking cards out of the Porper clip to begin with (I don't want them to think the cards are "special"), I would tend to eschew a non-functional yet "pretty" box, since I'd never get to show it to anyone anyways.

Might get some ooh and aahs down at the club meetings though.

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I've never used a card guard (Waddingtons - British & BEST Smile ) don't warp!!

However, a friend uses one and has said that once he's worked and the sticky sweaty mitts have warped a deck throughout the night, his metal card guard gets them pretty flat again - especially if they are left in a cool place.

However, I would think that whilst they serve a purpose, I would never dream of removing a deck from one in front of spectators. For me that would be bad psychology and perhaps indicate that the deck was anything but 'normal' even if it is! Only my view but anything that arouses any element of suspicion cannot be good!
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Ben G
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True, one shouldn't show that to the audience, but let's talk practice. It's better to use a clip between practice sections, than use more decks...
Just my 2 cts
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The Superhandz ones are amazing. they most certainly do provide even pressure along the entire deck, seeing as how 1.) It's hig-quality wood, and doesn't bend, and 2.) it's sealed off at two ends. I've never owned a Porper, but I can attest to the fact that since I've been using my Superhandz box, my cards are not being warped anymore due to body heat, etc. Please note that I'm not a Superhandz junkie, either.

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