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Emazdad Inner circle Plymouth UK 1954 Posts |
Hi jonty,
I used to be more tactful, but if you stay in the Café long enough you'll realise just how often you get these total beginniners who've not even got their toes wet in the performing water come along thinking they can go out and earn money. To exagerate a tiny bit it's almost like this. I got a magic trick in my christmas cracker my friends thought it was great, I saw a guy do a magic show for some kids and now I want to do kids parties, I've got one booked next week can you tell me how to do it. Two things wind me up, 1, the stupidity of the question, and 2, the number of people who think it's OK and start giving them advice on how to do it, rather than doing what the more professional members do, which is tell them it's wrong and point them on the proper path you should take before you get to the point of being able to sell your show. I got fed up repeating the "Get a show, do some freebies" line over and over, so now I just go straight for tactless.
Yours Funfully
Clive "Emazdad" Hemsley www.emazdad.com "Magic is a secret, without the secret there is no magic" Remember there are only 3 types of people in the world, those that can count and those that can't. |
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
I must say Emazdad is absolutely right. You must have a show, and know it well before you charge peolpe to see it. My previous advise is based on years of experience which can only be learned after years of practice.
Al Angello
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Jonty the Magician New user West Yorkshire UK 73 Posts |
I think I'd better point out that I, too, entirely agree with Emazdad's sentiments. It's just that, in this particular case, do we know whether or not Lukas already has magic performing experience but just not with kids? If so, then there's nothing at all wrong with giving him the advice he needs to add another 'string to his magic bow'. If not, then fair comment. Emazdad, do you personally know this guy? If not, don't you think it would be more prudent to find out something about him before passing judgement?
Jon
Jon Harris
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Emazdad Inner circle Plymouth UK 1954 Posts |
I've chatted with him via PM since then Jonty, and hopefully he will be coming along to the Plymouth circle, his previous performing experience is very very limited, basically a tiny bit of street magic in Torpoint, his dad stitched him up with the show.
Yours Funfully
Clive "Emazdad" Hemsley www.emazdad.com "Magic is a secret, without the secret there is no magic" Remember there are only 3 types of people in the world, those that can count and those that can't. |
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Jonty the Magician New user West Yorkshire UK 73 Posts |
Now THAT I think is great Emazdad! What better way to encourage him than to get him involved with a circle. I think you'll find that he goes on to become a valued member in Plymouth and will be someone who's proud of his art. If we don't encourage these kind of folk, then what will happen to the future of magic!
Jon
Jon Harris
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fredpaulbailey New user Fred 51 Posts |
I don't mean to sound stupid but at the topof this post the poster wrote:
vanishing silk with the TT What does the TT mean? Iv'e been doing magic for 34 years and I've seen it other places in the Café' and I can't figure out what it means! Please help! Fred |
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mrj New user Toronto, Canada 68 Posts |
Fredpaulbailey:
TT refers to a thumb tip. |
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fredpaulbailey New user Fred 51 Posts |
Oh. Now I really do feel stupid! Thank you Mr. J.
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Starrpower Inner circle 4070 Posts |
I don't think you should feel stupid at all, but ...
... it might be useful to have some kind of a "terminology" thread set up somewhere. Is there a way to do this and still keep a modicum of secrecy where needed? |
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Tom Stevens Veteran user Australia 361 Posts |
I had to figure out a few things too: TT, IT, C&B, and ****, and ***, and *****.
(I still haven't figured out the last one) |
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Joe Mauro Inner circle 1133 Posts |
Pick effects yu enjoy performing, but remember, you are the magic. Docc Hilford has a nice video called "20 minutes with a balloon" where he uses balloons to entertain. Your personality carries more weight than the effects, I think.
~Joe
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Decomposed Eternal Order High Desert 12059 Posts |
Interesting to see yet another person wanting to do the colouring book. I've seen it a number of times and never felt like adding it to my show.
How true....last time I used it I heard "we already saw that" too many times.
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ChrisJ Loyal user Lapeer, MI 226 Posts |
The coloring book is a fun filled trick, however the problem I see is that it can now be bought at any novelty shop or and Gags and gifts store, where they are just laying out for people to flip through anyway. I imagine in the right setting with a routine not based on the coloring book as its center it can be strong, maybe tying in crayon appearence/disapearence etc.
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silapmata Regular user 125 Posts |
Normally Kids are noisy & like to grab things when perform surrounding so I do not know whether you perform surrounding or on stage. If on Stage you hv no problem cos you can manage your props and kids will not be able to disturb your props.But if you perform surrounding, it is better to plan as minimum prop as possible, for me I normally use egg bag, changing bag, sponge balls, couple of rope tricks & escape tricks (Chilren luv to tie magician).Normally I wiil not do show more than 1 hr with children surrounding.
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Tom Stevens Veteran user Australia 361 Posts |
When I'm looking for things to add to my show it's got to be something that the kids can look at from every angle, won't know the secret if they grab it, and of course can be used in a funny way.
No balducci levitation. Kids will drop down on their tummy to get a better view. Palming has to be timed meticulously and those angles are tricky when kids will get anywhere without notice. |
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silapmata Regular user 125 Posts |
For every angle, I recommend egg bag e.g you pretend to put the egg in your arm pit & let them scream where is the egg? U will point to all the wrong place where you put the egg then on the last moment they will scream to their lung.. it is in your armpit then you open & it is empty..It will be hillarous. Another is mobius strip it is definitely a kids hit.
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Allan Olive Regular user Charlotte 180 Posts |
Earlier some had mentioned performing for different age groups. Silly Billy gave a lecture on this very subject at the SCAM convention in South Carolina this year. He brought kids up from three different age groups and demonstrated how he approached each level differently. He had those kids wrapped around his fingers. It was a very practical and informative lecture. If you get the chance to see him lecture on this topic or if he has notes available, it may help clear up some of the issues presented here.
I just found the lecture notes availiable on his site: http://sillymagic.com/lectures.html The lecture he gave was called: The Psychology of Performing Magic For Children I highly recommend it and I think you will enjoy it. Allan |
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Tom Stevens Veteran user Australia 361 Posts |
Some things of course are used briefly and will not get examined, like appearing canes and such.
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