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Yaniv Deautsch Special user Israel 529 Posts |
Like i said,it's my own method and effect.
Very diffrent from all the other ones {T.A Waters,Christian Chelman,Herb Dewey Etc...}. Yaniv Deautsch |
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Mikael Eriksson Inner circle None of your business 1064 Posts |
Yaniv, when you wrote "use an effect of my own to illustrate my point" I thought you would actually USE the effect so we could see that it actually is the way you say. Just telling us you can do this is not enough. If you can´t SHOW us someway, the discussion seems to lead nowhere, because people can say anything. If you say you can do things no other magician, cold reader, etc. etc. can do, and do not show us it´s only irritating. Please SHOW us something! You don´t have to tell us HOW it is done.
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Shimi Regular user Israel 107 Posts |
So you have a new method to an old effect.
At the end you just tell them thier zodiac sign. I was hoping for new effect. Every astrolog look at you and say: you must be cancer or virgo. They don't ask you to write anything down. Can you describe a new effect or a new plotthat you invented ? Shimi Yaniv Don't get me wrong. I read most of yor posts and you sound very knowledgble. I have never heared your name in Israel I hope you are good as your posts are |
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Scott Special user UK 799 Posts |
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On 2002-09-18 12:31, Philemon Vanderbeck wrote: I knew I had got the title wrong as soon as I sent it thanks for the correction. Scott Quote:
On 2002-09-18 19:20, Mikael Eriksson wrote: Mikael, You read my mind, that is exactly what I was thinking Scott |
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Mikael Eriksson Inner circle None of your business 1064 Posts |
Shimi, every astrologer looks at you and say: you must be cancer or virgo. And then they are mostly wrong! Yaniv claims to be correct. Even as he mentions only one sign. Every time. If the effect is like he says, the effect is incredible. If the effect Yaniv describes was the only one I could do, I would be satisfied for the rest of my life. There´s no need for Yaniv to invent a new effect, if he has found a new solution to an old effekt, and this transforms the whole effect into a miracle. Think about it, if you don´t use fishing, pumping, anagram, cards, pre show work, advance information or stooges, and you don't ask him to write anything down or to look at some charts, then what can be done? Not much that I know about...
Scott, thank you for your reply. I hope more people say what they think, as this is VERY interesting. And I still think you should demonstrate something Yaniv. Mikael |
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E-Leoni Veteran user USA 358 Posts |
It might just be the clock trick with tarot cards, or palmistry cards.
E-LEoni. |
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Yaniv Deautsch Special user Israel 529 Posts |
Like i said,you don't need to carry anything with you.
Yaniv Deautsch |
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Shimi Regular user Israel 107 Posts |
Hello Ericson
If you do "whats my sign" and it doesn't wow them,don't do it. If you want to be a mentalists like the guy in the movie ,go to the movies. Just telling a zodiac sign is not so impressive as duplacting a drawing (with no pre show, no clip boards etc.) As Yaniv wrote :He does some short palm reading before he can say the sign. Maybe he can sell it to us? Shimi |
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Yaniv Deautsch Special user Israel 529 Posts |
Please don't get me started talking about MY version of drawing duplication!
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Shimi Regular user Israel 107 Posts |
No don't start.
I want you start talking about something new. Not about something that every $%^& mentalist can do. Shimi |
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Bambaladam Special user 636 Posts |
This thread kind of promises to be about something interesting, but is actually more about who has the greatest methods, or what country produces boring performers or who is making outrageous claims.
Not that its anyone's duty to keep me interested, but if anyone would like to, they'd mention more of the stuff this thread is supposedly about, i.e. the limitations the fact you are cheating impose on the impact of your performance and how to eliminate them. Yaniv, please describe all the effects you feel are relevant to this. Even withholding your method you would be inspiring me to look for cleaner methods by showing me what is possible. This goes for everyone else too. Sorry to whine. /bamba |
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Luke Kerr Regular user 119 Posts |
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If you read the post New plots,you'll have a big list of possible effects. The problem is that a lot of this are very big and others nearly impossible,probably it would be good to create a new plot list ,where you could describe a plot that you can't do but about which you have some ideas.(without methods...the most important thing is that they will be performable) |
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Bambaladam Special user 636 Posts |
Well, the thread New plots is good for new plots. What I'm after here though is elements that are detrimental to different effects (i.e. old plots if you will) and ways people have found of eliminating those elements (or, if the method is to be withheld, which I think it should in this forum, at least the knowledge of which element is removed and by whom, for inspirational reasons). Also, I was trying to avoid the bickering this thread has been threatening to cause.
But thanks for your suggestion. /bamba |
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Paradox Regular user 178 Posts |
Yaniv, are you going to perform your sign effect for us or not? (Not that you're obligated to, but it would be nice if you would.)
And I don't think any of us are insisting that you tip your method---but if it's that good, a lot of us would probably buy it. Can you tell me my sign? Or do I have to be in your presence for it to work? We're all waiting---- |
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Yaniv Deautsch Special user Israel 529 Posts |
It seems to me that you are missing my point.
If some dead illusionist from the past will go see David Coperfield show i think that he will be very impressd. What do you think Annemann or Dunninger will think if they will see your show? In other words it seems to me that the erea of mentalism hasn't changed much since the days of Jinx. There will always be some distance between what we may call 'real magic' and our 'magic' but don't we want to make that distance as short as possible? Personally i have a strong desire to burn all my magic books and start all over again. Yaniv Deautsch |
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Mikael Eriksson Inner circle None of your business 1064 Posts |
After reading your last reply Yaniv, I can only say:
???????? You are a mysterious person Yaniv. Either you are lightyears ahead of us, or you have no idea about what you are doing. Mikael |
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Sid Mayer Special user Santa Fe, NM 656 Posts |
Doesn't it get tiresome getting up early every morning to go through your prospective victim's mailbox looking for birthday cards?
I know that I wears me out. Dozing, Sid
All the world's a stage ... and everybody on it is overacting.
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Yaniv Deautsch Special user Israel 529 Posts |
You must be joking mr Mayer!
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Paradox Regular user 178 Posts |
Yaniv, your last couple of posts made absolutely no sense to me. I, and others, asked you a simple question: are you going to perform your Zodiacal Sign effect for us or not? A simple "yes" or "no" would be an appropriate answer.
If the answer is "yes", then do it. Tell me my sign. Or tell somebody else in this thread their sign. If the answer is "no", then you can hardly blame us for doubting your word. |
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Yaniv Deautsch Special user Israel 529 Posts |
First of all i didn't meant to read anyone's mind here in the first place.
I wanted to tell you about one of my effects. Just all. If you doubt my word,fine. Stick to old stuff. I will stick to mine thank you very much. Yaniv Deautsch |
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