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I finally got your vids to work (had to use a second system and dl them instead of watching them direct) and I have to say you have that "behind the back" move nailed pretty good. Nice job.
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Thanks,

I got that move from some little manual written by Merle T. Shute. It was called " Tips on the Zombie" or something like that. It can found at about any magic shop for around $5. A good investment.

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Tim
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Timothy-

I was in a similar situation this last weekend -we had a big show in a beaut theatre-full stage facilities 500 people & the reaction I got from the Zombie was really good-audience laughed & clapped all the way through the routine!!!!! & applauded very generously at the conclusion before I move onto my finale etc-It still works !!!

I also perform the round the back move-gets a good reaction & creates the illusion of the ball moving in all directions

At times I often wonder if this effect is still popular but it is to a lay audience-& that's what I judge as to what I perform!!

Ive been performing basically the same Zombie routine for 25 yrs now-but I still practice & refine some movements each week to make it look so natural & prior to that rehearsed for 6 months before I introduced this into my act-I now use a new handmade gimmick of my own-for comfort & use-my routine is 1min 40 secs approx to music

Your videos look good-well done

-Brent
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About the Zombie, I think that the zombie will be allways popular Illusion in Magic.
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Brent,

I also custom made my own zombie. I almost gave up on the effect early on as it killed my finger to rehearse it. The epoxy shell I added to the interior of the DW ball ( for strength ) added a bit of weight. I could only rehearse a few times and have to quit for the day. My finger eventually got stronger and it's no longer an issue.

Thanks for the nice comments regards the videos.

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Tim
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I sure did not mean that the floating table was not a good effect. it just does not register we me as well as the zombie. But you are right..what hits one person does hit the next.
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Hi Richard,

I understand exactly what you mean. There are many great effects out there that I just do much for me. Each performer or layman will be impressed by different things. I am fascinated with any type of levitation illusion...in case nobody noticed...HAH!

For those interested...the book I mentioned earlier is called " The How To Book on the Zombie" and not " Tips on the Zombie " as I earlier posted.

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Tim
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For those interested...the book I mentioned earlier is called " The How To Book on the Zombie" and not " Tips on the Zombie " as I earlier posted.

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Tim
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The Zombie Bible by Merlyn Shute as mentioned above-Great moves!

I recently started performing the across body move while your facing the audience with both hands in front of you-Audience reaction as the ball slowly rolls across your chest is unique!!-They love it!!

Great Book
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Timothy,

That is phenomenal video! I downloaded all the vids for my collection. These are perfect demonstrations of the Zombie and Don Wayne Ball...I have to admit I was VERY disappointed in the Don Wayne Ball when I received it. Flimsy! Worse than a 2-liter bottle, you know that thin plastic...however that DOES make it light weight. I would much rather use the Astroshere on the Don Wayne rigging simply because the ball is much more SOLID looking. You can see through my DW ball, if you hold it up to the light, sort of like a two-way mirror works.

Tim, you made an epoxy reinforcement? You must have had to really doctor that thing up to make it "Zombi-fied"! I'm really grateful for those vid's. Your performances blow me away! Smile

Doug
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Hi Doug,

Thanks for your kind accolades. I've got 4 DW floating balls and will soon give them all the see thru light test.

I used the epoxy to line the bottom of the ball so it could supports its own weight when I attached the gimmick. Before I added the epoxy inside it, it would compress ( at the point of the gimmick ) with the weight of the cloth over it. I also used a strip of mylar tape to reseal the two pieces of the ball. It was shinier than scotch tape and looked better.

Best,

Tim
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On 2005-02-22 22:08, Timothy Drake wrote:
I had a show booked tonight for a boy scout banquet. I was short of material that would play to all age groups ( siblings and parents also attended ) so I opened with Zombie even though I would later do the Floating table. I love my table but tonight it got only polite applause while the Zombie I opened with earned oohs,aahs and cheers from the audience.

Best,

Tim


Tim, I have experienced such an reaction with my Silk to Egg Routine and the Color Changing Silk tricks. As I see it, it is not the trick but that it floated in the same manner. Such as, hanging onto a cloth, and it floated. It is not that they did not like the effect, but that you lost your audience attention when a 'repeat' of the same trick was introduced.

Magicians see tricks as separate individual tricks. Audiences see the 'affect'. When I start to stuff a hanky in my hand, the audience thinks it is the same trick. I even heard, "not again" from someone in the audience.

The audience sees the trick as something floating, as in my case a scarf being stuffed in my hand. They had no idea what was to come next, but I take it as they became bored with 'something they already seen'.

So, for a long while I never did these effects in the same show. Then I found that if you have a long performance and the placement of the 'like' effects are far enough apart; they can be performed in the same show.

The Zombie and Floating Table are different tricks to Magicians, but to a lay audience. They are the same, something floating.

This was my experience.
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I absolutely agree and considered not doing both effects in the same show. I consented only because I was short on material. I have done this before ( did both effects ) and had the audience react to the table best. I open with Zombie and do the table towards the end. When I did the same thing at this show the audience liked the table somewhat but really freaked on the zombie.

Go figure.

Best,

Tim
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Timothy-

Just adding to my previous comments-

I have now had a look at all your vids as has Doug etc

Im really impressed-they are so good-Congrats on a top show!!!

I like you love any form of levitation if done well-I have a DW Ball but never used it on stage yet!!-I lost my original instructions in a folder a couple of yrs back when shifting house !!-I must give this a go very soon & sort out the rigging etc

We have 2 big shows coming up this week in a brand new auditorium seats 6-700 should be sold out for the first show anyway-I'll look forward to raising the levitations etc I perform to anywhere near your level-Great vids!!!

Cheers-Brent
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Many thanks Brent,

I'll take a look around and if I can find the original DW hookup diagram I'll fax it ( I'll PM you for a fax number if I do find it ) to you. Anything for a fellow levitation lover!

Best,

Tim
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Zombie is a very good effect, when you master it!
I know because I show Zombie this Friday 2005.02.25 on my first big poreformance.
Like Timothy sayd: "You nead practice a lot to master the effect!"

I performed the zombie very bad, I nervice, I shake a little bit and so on.
But on the next day on my performance I replace the Zombie on that, that I know I can perform very good and without any mistakes.

So Now I am practicing my Zombie ball routine everyday.
Plus the Zombie routine must be short and sweet.
Not about 2-3min but 1-2min.

I nead to say big thanks to Timothy Drake for advice he gave me!
Thank you my Friend.

Regards to All
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Nick
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